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MSNBC Dateline June 4, 2024 07:46:00

house, about ten minutes. if she arrives at helium road in three and a half, to five minutes plenty of time. she has time to kill robin, and then drive back to manhattan street, and arrive at about 10:20. the ten minute gap cast doubt on katie s alibi. so, really, it is katy s best friend who puts the noose around her? absolutely. something else was hurting katie, to. if you watch dateline regularly, you know. cell phone data can make, or break, a case. that was, certainly, true in this one. at 10:13, katie paying off of an antenna, at the lockney tower. which was close to savannah s house. and, also to the crime scene. when she checked her voice mail, it pinned off the tower. so, the ping from katie s phone, that is consistent with your theory that she had committed a murder, and was heading home. if it are theory, that s

MSNBC Dateline June 4, 2024 07:56:00

laying out a scenario of how it all might have happened. in the backseat, she shows up, she sore speeding on that glass cause we have trips from the, windowpane transfers from the gun. it happens in a flash, right here in front of, you can t do anything about, it is driving you crazy. not your fault, it happened in five seconds time no, sir. but we are throwing all kinds of accusations and crap me right now. that is not true, sir. eight days later, j.d. said, he was ready to come clean. the story he then told matched investigators suspicions. j.b. now admitted, he had gone to helium wrote, that night, to meet robin. i got in the backseat with her, and we were talking about the girls, the stars test coming up. that is when j.d. said, he noticed headlights, shining through the back window. a few moments later, here a tap in on the glass. something harder than a fist.

MSNBC Dateline June 4, 2024 08:37:00

for the weekend. that trip to new york felt only to you? oh yeah. and it did to ferron as well. it s not that far from there to the canadian border. and, after talking about it, and thinking about it, i said let s go ahead and make the arrest. your daughter had been married with sky. yes. and now he s accused of her murder? it was like, i just can t believe it. and for katy, there was relieved to be sure. but much more than that. when i got the call that he was in fact in custody. i lay there in bed and i was just crying. i want robin back. i want those kids happy. i want to be happy. i want, i want what will never be. now remember, j.d. was only arrested and not convicted. and as we saw with katie, any case can fall apart. and that s when the da made another hit snapping move.

MSNBC Dateline June 4, 2024 08:45:00

offensive to you? yes. what kind of person in your view does that? a liar. a fraud. a charlatan. for the record, he now denies telling anyone that he was in the marines. the most dramatic moments of his trial was yet to come. when his ex-wife katie, also the ex suspect took the stand to testify against him. katie knew that the public perception of her guilt or innocence was writing on the credibility of her testimony. if i knew that i was gonna be on trial as well. because, you are like the alternate defendant. right. to establish her credibility as a witness, they had to admit to the jury that he d wrongly charged her with murder years ago. once we identified the six hour window that killed robin. now it seems pretty small. by telling the jury that

MSNBC Dateline June 4, 2024 07:25:00

or do we need to reschedule again? then this text exchange at 9:20 pm. you about ready? yep. which as it happened was the last text ever sent from robin s phone. so presumably that setting up the meeting? yes. so we knew he was lying to us. not good for j.d.. you have the last person to have contact with her, and that contact was arranging a meeting. yes sir, that makes me a suspect no matter what? it leaves me wondering what happened. it leaves me wondering too sir. j.d. now says that he had planned to meet robin at s house. to talk about the kids. he said that that was the reason he wanted his uncle there. to be a witness just in case katie showed up. the approximate time, y all were supposed to meet. 9:30? approximate time? yes sir. how come you didn t? because uncle ty was over. we were drinking beers. decided to people. how did you communicate to

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