based on these released tax showing that he texted meadows during the attack, saying that a tweet that trump issued calling for the people attacking the capitol to, quote, remain peaceful, or stay peaceful, was not enough. don junior basically told meadows that trump needed to do more, needed to take stronger steps to try to quell the violence. he is in a really interesting spot because he was never an administration official, but it is very closely connected to trump s political operation, very closely connected to the grassroots, and they don t are communities that supported trump. he really has his finger on the pulse, and the fact that during the attacked he was weighing in that way, and watching things as closely as he was, means he s gonna have some insides. the question is, how candid forthcoming is he before the panel? quick question on why he is doing this voluntarily. do you have any insight into why don jr. agreed to this questioning voluntarily? that is a good question.
responsibility for wednesday s attack on congress by mob rioters. and while those words were these strongest public condemnation we saw of trump from republican leaders after the coup, and they have all largely changed their tone since, for some reason. a new book sheds light on what those two men, mccarthy and mcconnell, were reportedly saying in private. in a preview of their upcoming book, journalist alexander burns, and alexander martin report, quote, on a phone call with several other top house republicans on january the 8th, mccarthy said trump s conduct on january the 6th, had been atrocious and totally wrong. he faulted the president for inciting people to attack the capitol, saying that trump s remarks at a rally on the national mall that day, we re not right by any shame or any form. during that conversation, mccarthy inquired about the mechanism for invoking the 25th amendment. the process by which the vice president and members of the candidate can remove a sitting presiden
president was in his residence when the call came in. he then left the room, and was out of earshot for about 15 to 20 minutes. critical timeline, there, betsy. what is the committee hoping to learn from that phone call? what they want to know is more about the level of pressure that trump put on pants, and then the ways that pence grappled with that episode. we ve reported in this piece that some of the longtime trump aides who were in the room, listening just to trump side of the conversation, were shocked when they realized that pence, for the first time that they ve ever experienced, was actually putting his foot down, and was actually putting back against president trump, for the entirety of the trump administration pence was seen as somebody who is pretty much always on board with everything. and that phone call, at least for some of the listeners in the room with trump, was the first time they ever really heard him push back, it was an extraordinary moment for him. that said,
and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day. no question about it. president trump is still liable for everything he did while he was in office. we have a criminal justice system in this country, we have civil litigation, and former presidents are not immune from being accountable by either one. the president bears responsibility for wednesday s attack on congress by mob rioters. he should have immediately denounced the mob, when he saw what was unfolding. these facts require immediate action from president trump. except his share of responsibility, quell the brewing unrest, and ensure that president elect biden is able to successfully begin his term. the president bears
when they realized that pence, for the first time that they ve ever experienced, was actually putting his foot down, and was actually putting back against president trump, for the entirety of the trump administration pence was seen as somebody who is pretty much always on board with everything. and that phone call, at least for some of the listeners in the room with trump, was the first time they ever really heard him push back, it was an extraordinary moment for him. that said, even that pushback, even then, pence tried to do in the most differential way possible. we also learned that his team tried to wait till the latest possible moment on january 6th, to say publicly, that he was going to refuse to do what trump wanted, and he certified the electoral college results. still, pence got as cases that line as he could, and in cross, it and he will have to pay the consequences. betsy woodruff swan, i was always great reporting, thanks for joining us with those details, greatly appreci