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senior author, also the author of kingdom rise. i found the bundy story interesting because it harkens back to the mid- 90s militia right. what do you think has changed? well to be clear, i don t think this is the first time in the obama era that this militia movement, we ve seen an upsurge in that. you saw a lot of people showing up at town hall meetings and kind of shutting them down. there were a lot of threats and conspiracy theories and u.n. death panels, we tend to see this in modern times, basically whenever democrats are in power. you know, the modern republican party doesn t see democrats as legitimate. when the republicans are in power they become quite fond of these right-wing insurgents that seem to be beyond the political pale.
goldberg, my colleague and senior author, also the author of kingdom rise. i found the bundy story interesting because it harkens back to the mid- 90s militia right. what do you think has changed? well to be clear, i don t think this is the first time in the obama era that this militia movement, we ve seen an upsurge in that. you saw a lot of people showing up at town hall meetings and kind of shutting them down. there were a lot of threats and conspiracy theories and u.n. death panels, we tend to see this in modern times, basically whenever democrats are in power. you know, the modern republican party doesn t see democrats as legitimate. when the republicans are in power they become quite fond of these right-wing insurgents that