disarm north korea without the use of force or even without the threat of force, all he has to do is go after those big four chinese banks because all of the big four have been handling north korea s money and we haven t even fined those banks. do you see any progress, perhaps subtle progress, from this approach? it seems that what the president thinks here is he can develop a warm, personal relationship with kim and that that will reap dividends, maybe eventually leading do you see any indications of that? first of all, relationships don t matter to kim leaders. they re ruthlessly pragmatic and kim jong-un could love president trump. it won t make any difference in north korean policy. what trump has been doing since the middle of may of last year is trying to create this space, as secretary of state pompeo has talked about, sort of make kim feel secure enough to give up his weapons. well, kim leaders don t reciprocate gestures of friendship. what they do is they press advantage