ahold of a pressure cooker, fill it up with shrapnel. a very common anti-personnel device that does just what this did. to injure, maim and create terror. to your point, 1976, a croatian nationalist place ad pressure keerk bomb in a locker in grand central terminal. that device went off as technicians attempted to dismantle it, killing one nypd officer and badly injuring another. that was in 1976. these types of explosive devices have been used many times, including as you said, with the bomber who was in time square. yeah. it is an easy to get ahold of device. i think the challenge for the authorities right now is they will try to trace back the device as your previous guest said. the size of the bbs, the shrapnel, we ll be for that. we ll try to determine if it was a timer device or if it was a