spending and the senate has never done anything and haven t passed a single bill to keep the government does it make sense to shut down the government now that you have gotten the big cuts. i want to get off of tens of billions of dollars, 2 to 4%, shaving off our budget deficit and get into the debate of trillions of dollars and that is where we ll go this week. but put the emphasis where it ought to be, the senate democrats have not passed a bill to prevent a shut down, we have passed two. chris: congressman on the other hand, if the two parties are having so much trouble as they are now over a couple of billion dollars, 1 or 2% you are talking about cutting you say more than $4 trillion, revamping medicare, medicaid, how will that happen when you can t get an agreement on that is a good question and i find it ironic the week we are trying to engage the president and democrats and the country with an honest debate about our budget, real solution, to fix the country s prob
election aren t democrats going to be able to say, look at paul ryan, and the house republicans, they want to kill medicare and kill medicaid and gut the programs you depend on, aren t you playing into the democrats hands. we are giving them a political weapon to go against us but they ll have to lie and demagogue to make it a political weapon. look we don t change benefits for anybody over the age of 55, save medicare and medicaid and entitlement programs and repair our social safety net and get or country a debt free country for our children and grandchildren s generation and, we get jobs. economic growth. they will demagogue us and that all race prevented political leaders from actually fixing the problem and we can t keep kicking the can down the road. the president punted and we will not follow suit and we ll give our political adversaries things to use against us in the next election and shame on them if they do that. chris: congressman ryan, thank you so much for coming in
increases, the key is, nobody says medicare can stay on its current path, even obamacare acknowledges that and we shouldn t measure ourselves against a mythical future of medicare that is not sustainable. medicare itself literally crowds out all other government spending at the end of the day. we cannot sustain that. we have to get medicare solvent. rick foster, the chief actuary came to the budget committee the other day and said one of the best things we can do to save medicare and bend that cost curve, and help inflation is to go to the type of system we are proposing. chris: medicaid and i better ask, because i m facing this in the reports, the reports are that you will save $1 trillion over ten years on medicaid. true. those numbers are different as well. you will see our specific numbers we will propose block grants to the states and have had so much testimony from the governors, saying give thus freedom to customize our programs to tailor the unique but, critics
the last two weeks have been full of accomplishments for the president. a criticism that democrats laid against republicans when they countered the health care law it was fearmongerring and scare tactics but i look at the democratic talking point memo saying that the republican attempt will shut down rural care centers and leave 29 million more people unemployed, kill medicaid, this is a scare tactic. it is not scare tactics if it is true. 29 million will be without health benefits if you repeal it. here we are, christmas eve, talking about talking away health insurance from 29 million americans. shame on them. but those are people that are going to be added. added. that comes with a bill. every american, republican or democrat, want children and people to have health coverage. but we do not want to pay for it. we are on the night before
to be able to say, look at paul ryan, and the house republicans, they want to kill medicare and kill medicaid and gut the programs you depend on, aren t you playing into the democrats hands. we are giving them a political weapon to go against us but they ll have to lie and demagogue to make it a political weapon. look we don t change benefits for anybody over the age of 55, save medicare and medicaid and entitlement programs and repair our social safety net and get or country a debt free country for our children and grandchildren s generation and, we get jobs. economic growth. they will demagogue us and that all race prevented political leaders from actually fixing the problem and we can t keep kicking the can down the road. the president punted and we will not follow suit and we ll give our political adversaries things to use against us in the next election and shame on them if they do that. chris: congressman ryan, thank you so much for coming in today. giving us a first look at