report didn t find frds evidenc. there was a political narrative to start. let s just say at the outset, who did this investigation. this wasn t a partisan. this was an independent entity inside the justice department that is responsible for unearthing wrongdoing by fbi employees. it is also important to say this is not a clean bill of health for the fbi according to the new york times reporting. there is a fault found by employees. there was a political operation inside the fbi working on behalf of president obama for the political purpose of bringing down donald trump is undercut, yet that is the narrative that we have continued to see time and again, john. kirsten, to you. i m sure we re going to get tons of apologies now. that sound clip we just played was really stunning because that was a coordinated orchestrated effort by the president and his allies, some of whom are in the media to spread what now appear to be lies and misinformation. so, you know, like i said, where is
heard from other people who have a very different spin. we ll wait and see. we can speculate all we want. but we ll wait and see here. all i do know is that there s there was a hearing schedule for next week that has now been postponed and that to me is probably not a good sign for those who think this is going to be a banner day for the fbi. we ll see the report soon enough. kirsten, i want to close this with you. i happen to think the new york times is solid here. they have good reporters on this. we ll see the report when it comes out. this gets to the bigger problem of the spin machine that the white house has here, how they re able to create a year of questions and a year of noise about the idea of a spy within a campaign. again, when there seems to be no basis for that at all. right. and i think the thing is once you do that and you have somebody at the level of the president of the united states pushing this narrative as well, you really can t put that genie back in the
to the fbi. president trump came into office and he has sort of systematically attacked every institution that, you know, that most americans used to hold in hirie expect. not to say they re perfect, you know. i certainly have been critical of the fbi before, but he has systematically gone after every institution and tried to turn americans against them. josh campbell, kiersten powers, rick santorum, here s what i would like for each of you to have a wonderful and happy thanksgiving. same to you. same to you. a member of the house judiciary committee joins us to talk about the latest the new york times report that undercuts the president s defense. what the president knew and when he knew it. that s next. i am all about living joyfully.
make statements, not to doesn t matter to anyone but himself. want to get some perspective now. former republican national chief of staff mike shields, senior political commentator with us, cnn columnist and political analyst kiersten powers. kirsten, it s easy to say why isn t anyone reporting on this? why is the media focused on this? i agree with that, but the media is focused on this to the extent that they are and again, we spent most of our time focused on the bahamas and the east coast tonight as all week because the president of the united states, the most powerful guy of the world is focused on this, can t let it go, and is putting probably or having somebody else put fictional sharpie marks on projection maps. you know, this is crazy. yeah, i mean, i think the problem is that it is news worthy, right? i mean, we have to be careful to not get lulled into this idea that you just look the other way when somebody is behaving in a
trump. donald trump will remind everybody every day that they don t really like him, most of us. we have to say what we re going to do that s positive, and if we don t do that we re not going to win. it s an interesting idea that sort of the trump leg of this will urie essentialyou re es saying it will take care of itself. those he outrages he ll continue to outrage. the democrats don t need to waste time on that. that s a given. we have to stand for something positive. i don t think we re going to get elected by saying i m not trump. right. kirsten, the last one-term president was george h.w. bush. he struggled with his messaging about relatively mild recession that happened the year before he ran for reelection. do you think the candidates should be looking to that election for guidance? well, i think so, the big problem that he ran into was he was he was basically telling people, it s not as bad as you think that it is. and so that really alienated people because peopl