to 1,000 casualties a day. while the ukrainians say that number is even higher. they are now calls for the west to take advantage of this window of opportunity and step up its military support for ukraine. having failed to take kyiv, senior u.s. officials tell the wall street journal they believe the kremlin is now shifting to plan b, compelling the ukrainian government to accept russia s territorial claims and to accept neutrality as well, meaning don t join nato. ukraine has already rejected those conditions. well, on thursday, on tuesday they suggested it was a possibility. i think on all of these conditions, we re going to see movement back and forth as they continue to try to figure out a way to get together. often it looks like there s no way out. let s bring in u.s. special correspondent for bbc, katty
never accepted ukraine is a different country. the younger people, 18 to 30-year-olds do accept it s separate country, and they re quite relaxed about it. putin is appealing to them, we re a great power. and for some reason that still resonates with them, and that s why he s as popular as he is. it s also why because of the overlap with the countries that you have russians killing people who are speaking russian in ukraine. russian people. and why some people inside of russia see them as traitors. it s a strange dynamic. the green revolution in iran in 09, you had half the country, the younger educated class of the country actually wanting to push the molas out, and you had the older more rural parts of iran wanting to keep them in. it s just, your heart bleeds for the russians, for the ukrainians, people are seeing so much destruction.
and mariupol, it was a russian demand early this morning to give up, give up or we re coming in. we re going to fight street by street, and you know what, the ukrainians are fighting street by street and that will happen in kyiv. can i ask you, david, i m curious, we re looking at these, and you re right, people are cheering on the ukrainians. we re looking at studies, reports, military assessments and one after another says the russians do not have enough troops, especially with how poorly they have been going to take kyiv, to hold kyiv, and to take other cities. this is like iraq square. you have stories of women who are commanding 20 people getting in their electric vehicles, going out of town, camping in the woods for three days, and helping take out a tank column, and they jump back in their cars and go home. this is something, i mean, this actually seems like a far more
maternity hospitals, they re flattening strategic city, mariupol, they re telling the people they have a certain number of hours to leave before there will be military tribunals. they re kidnapping ukrainians and taking them into russia. what red line would look serious at this point? whether it applies to nato rules or not, ambassador taylor, right now europe and the west looks like it can t help these people, and i think even, you know, people across america, i think we have polls that we ll show later, but there is a growing interest in helping these people, in doing something that would stop this brutality. red lines at this point are far from behind us. red lines are behind us. and the brutality that we see, it s gut wrenching. it s beyond words.
school where hundreds of civilians were sheltering. local officials say around 400 women and children had taken refuge inside the school before it was bombed. the number of casualties is unclear but the city s mayor says hundreds might be dead. so david, talk about vladimir putin s strategy for those of us watching in the west. for those of us who actually do value human life. the ukrainians put in large letters children in russian where children are seeking shelter in mariupol, and they targeted it. children is used as a target. a reason to actually, oh, here s an opportunity russians think to kill a lot of children at one time. they did it again here. i m sorry to be so ignorant, but what is the strategy there other