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and engage with iran then. too little maybe, too late, arguably not but not reciprocated. did didn t work. so then you could argue we have been too little threatening and too late. so it comes along in 2002. axis of evil mobilizing forces, we will do iran first and iraq and next. that is pretty threatening. strategy of regime change which is very threatening but not what you are supposed to do if you are trying to get people to stop building nuclear programs or believe in deterrence because the whole idea of deterrence is if you behave differently, you get to exist and we have a nice relationship but if your policy is no matter what you do i am getting rid of you that is an inducement to do stuff to keep you from getting rid of them but in any case there was threatening so the argument is we have been too little threatening and done it too late on would argue that was done. earlier. now you could argue the way the iraq war turned in 2004/2005 took the threat away because the