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Daughter of murdered Lisa Knoefel describes her desperate attempt to save her mother

The daughter of Lisa Knoefel speaks in her first interview since witnessing the brutal murder of her mother fatally stabbed by her foster daughter over an affair with her husband

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211205 09:45:00

lisa. prosecutors then turned juror s attention to kevin s behavior after lisa s murder. david struck was one of kevin s close friends. struck testified that kevin seemed desperate to visit sabrina in jail, just one day after the murder. he told me that he just wanted to let her know that he was still there for her. this was the person that had just killed his wife and i was shocked that he would want to have any sort of contact with her. according to karen, kevin s real reason for wanting to see sabrina was to keep her from talking to police. and telling them about kevin s involvement in the murder plot. the trip to the jail was certainly huge. as pleased as prosecutors were with their case so far, they knew it would stand or fall on how the jury responded to their next witness. you guys worried? i was worried. they listened.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211205 09:11:00

the phone someone else has a knife. megan was screaming, yelling at somebody to stop, you re killing her. stop. you re hurting her. why are you doing this. oh my god, my mom s gonna die. in the background, lisa can be heard, pleading for help. call 911. what is going on? oh my god. it s really chilling to listen to. you re going to have to take a deep breath. i cannot understand you. my mom s gonna die. first responding officer randy arrived at the home. and found megan frantic at the front door. she s waving her hands, you need to hurry, hurry, hurry. they learned kevin was away on business, leaving lisa, megan, hailey and their foster daughter sabrina at home. worst case scenario was going through my head. what am i going to see? how bad is this going to be? it was far worse than he could have imagined. out of the master bedroom came the 18-year-old foster daughter sabrina holding a knife. it looked like she literally

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211205 09:44:00

kevin, she said, admitted his marriage to lisa was in trouble and said they were considering divorce. what was your retoox that statement? i was surprised. i didn t know they were even considering splitting up or divorce. kevin, she said, asked whether in a divorce he would be able to take sabrina with him as opposed to her staying with lisa. i just thought it was a little odd that he wanted to take 17-year-old girl alone in a home with just him. prosecutors next showed juror s cell phone activity. more evidence, they say, that indicated kevin and sabrina were having an affair. kevin was texting sabrina way more than he was texting his wife. substantially more. within a two-week period, kevin and sabrina texted and called each other almost 1500 times. that compares to just 200 calls and texts between kevin and

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211205 09:46:00

everyone listened. as sabrina told of the night she took lisa s life. i started to stab her. i just raised the knife up and went down on her. why is it that you can finally and brutally stab her repeatedly 178 times? because i was manipulated to do it. by who? kevin. what did you think? sabrina was a strong witness. i felt she did a good job. maybe so, but without anyone to corroborate sabrina s story, prosecutors feared the jury still wouldn t believe it or her. enter the next witness, sabrina s high school friend, autumn. autumn testified she had first-hand knowledge about the murder plan and kevin s involvement in it. there was a phone call that

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