scenario. i m joined by kevin barret. let me start with you courtney. we heard from about the false alarm. it appears human error in the state emergency manage. authority in hawaii was the primary cause of this. going forward, what we want to do is make sure we have a system that does not allow these kinds of false alerts to go out. it s about the system but also the response. this 38-minute lag period when, as reporters may have known, it was a false alarm, but officially that alert didn t go out for a good 40 minutes. what was the protocol? what s important to know is that the military also knew that was a false alarm. right. so that s what we another thing we have to keep in mind