their jobs. there is something that i m stunned by what you said. but let me bring up john kelly again because he s had mitt that the white house has had issues when it comes to the security clearances. that is stunning to me. staunding that it is coming from him because he should know about all of this. he certainly should. and i worked for four chiefs of staff. and at the end of the day as chief of staff, you are responsible for your staff. even jared kushner. and so i think in a kethat kell faced with a decision of how does he get the process back on the rails and make clear that as chief of staff he will enforce this new system and frankly that he will take responsible for the fact that there were systemic abuses of the security clearance system and that the new rules need to be applied and need to be enforced. so i want to talk to you about the report in the new york times that says that the president asked john kelly to help the president force his daughter and jared ku