ve investigation. we were accused of leaking grand jury information. it was bogus. you had a staff member indicted and then acquitted. there was a charge and he was acquitted. the entire investigation was acquitted by virtue of a special master investigation. a wonderful judge. a very respected judge. . you were asked to look into it. there s other stuff that the legal term is not double super secret. you did do a lot of leaking about that. your office leaked a lot of stories. do you think you leaked too many stories? i disagree that we leaked stories. there are reports from that time and you have a book all about this which folks can check out that quote, prosecutors
investigation. we saw it as we interviewed witnesses which is you have dozens of foreign witnesses, dozens of foreign companies involved and thousands of communication logs and transactions. i would suspect this could indicate that bob mueller has opened up a line of investigation that would look at finances. i m thinking that a banking institution is probably likely here. you said mueller twice. have you confirmed this is a mueller isssubpoena? no. you believe this to be mueller? the circumstantial evidence we have, it looks like it. from the evidence we reviewed, there are banks overseas that the trump team has used that we would have liked to have seen. my hope is bob mueller has in his mandate pursued that too. i got to give you couple of doors. do you think this is china,
constitute grounds for impeachment. that s what the congress required the independent counsel to do. the report that went up was precisely that that congress in 1978 said that s what we want the the good news is we don t have that anymore. you re saying the good news is we ll never have another ken starr investigation. not personalize it and make it more structural. the statute created about 20 independent counsels. it led to that impeachment that you re calling hell. the underlying law was strong as i mentioned earlier. you wrote that report. let s get to something interesting that you know is hot today. you solicited a position that
redacted. why would flynn law about sanctions in his talks? why did he lie about his conversations? he could have called him and say i want to remind you, sergei, our government will be in power january 20th. we ll be in power. why he chose to go farther than that and lie about it leads me to wonder why was he lying. i still don t know the answer from that question. there are three sources that are saying they are familiar with this probe and say mueller is zeroing in on the sanctions issue and what the kremlin would hope to get in return. moments ago we got from from the washington post bob mueller is requesting testimony of roger stone from the house intelligence committee. this is the first time mueller has asked that panel for this kind of conversation for the investigation. i m joined now by national
and president clinton. thank you so much for being with us. ken starr, your boss, has said there were a lot of eerie echoes here. do you see it like that? yeah, well, that s true. you see it generally for two basic reasons. number one is you see basic similarities in any criminal investigation. people lie about their conduct. people often obstruct justice in the investigation and people often do crime with people they know and trust like their friends or associates. but also in particular in a presidential inquiry, you have the special counsel, you have a very public defens and a very public great public attention. you have the prospect of impeachment and you have the prospect of pardons. baked into the equation, you re going to get a lot of similarity before you even start. but even here, there are some similarities that go beyond that, that are quite interesting. right. and another one of the similarities here, we always say, in journalism, unfortunately, it s not illegal to li