that were ongoing changed the results of any of the states, i think more just helping them reach out but the, my understanding is the campaign did take the lead and we just were helping in that role. as president trump and his supporters continued to lose lawsuits, some campaign lawyers became convinced convening electors in states that trump lost was no longer appropriate. i just remember, either replied or called somebody saying unless we have litigation pending in these states, like i don t think this is appropriate, you know, this is not the right thing to do. i don t remember how i phrased it, but i got into a little bit of a back and forth and i think it was with ken chesboro, get after it.