president would want to engage. at the same time knowing if the house goes forward with impeachment, the senate would control any future trial. and that would be republican control. a more comfortable environment, perhaps, for the president. but all of that is still to be determined. richard. our white house correspondent kelly kelly o donnell from west palm beach, florida. let s turn to our panel now. political white house reporter daniel litman. scott wong, as mentioned earlier. carole lam. carole, let s start with you on this. you are the advisor to president trump. what should he do with these two deadlines? well, it s a tough tough decision they ve got going on here because it s a little bit like a criminal trial. certainly certainly, the president is not likely to testify himself. but when you re trying to decide whether or not to mount a defense, you have to be aware that you re not just going to get to put on your side of the
now-famous september 9th call. the president says that call proves he was not seeking favors from ukraine. a claim now under scrutiny. all this after seven public hearings to date. more than 34 hours of public testimony. 12 witnesses all said. our panel today, political white house reporter. senior staff writer for the hill, scott wong, and former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst carole lam. but first, let s go straight to white house correspondent kelly o donnell in west palm beach, florida. and, kelly, it s a new day. we got new deadlines and has the white house responded to chairman nadler? not yet. and perhaps they re going to take as much time as the chairman is allowing to get those responses. but i think we ve got some clues that can give us some guidance. in part, the white house has until tomorrow to decide if, by wednesday, they want to have any lawyers.
to make. and what we know is, up until this point, they have said what s been happening in the house is a sham process that has cut the president out. making it seem unlikely that he would want to engage in that process. but we don t yet know for sure until the president and his legal team make a decision. richard. so, kelly, ear to the ground. you always have. go, no go? do we know whether the president will say yes or no? any indications here? well, i think because the president has some options, which would include participation or not participation. we know one thing is wednesday he is due to be in europe to attend the 70th anniversary of the nato alliance. and have a couple of days on the world stage there. given that, they expect that the president couldn t be personally there. so could he send legal counsel? he could. but he certainly will have republicans on that committee wanting to do, you know, to represent his position. it seems unlikely that while this is in the house
privately while there. this was just announced a short time ago by josh earnest about the president traveling to the community of san bernardino. that s roughly about 60 miles outside of los angeles. also big news coming today from capitol hill where we have congress reaching a deal to avoid a government shutdown. the $1 trillion spending bill would fund the government through october of next year. take a listen to this, house speaker paul ryan earlier today about what it means to come to this last-minute deal. i have no reason to believe we ll have a shutdown. in divided government, you don t get everything you want. this is the result of a bipartisan compromise. and i think everybody can point to something that gives them a reason to be in favor of this, of both of these bills. nbc s kelly o donnell is on capitol hill. i have a frog in my throat, excuse me. but explain to all of us why speaker ryan doesn t sound too hot about where he is with this new deal? caller: well, i th
some things that will make both sides work. so democrats are very pleased, there are a lot of programs funded for families, for college education, for the fight against heroin and addiction in places like new hampshire. there are also pleas to have stopped republicans from things like trying to defund planned parenthood. that won t happen. republicans are excited about some tax breaks that are extended and being able to lift the oil ban on oil exports that s have been in place for 40 years. the voting still has to happen, thomas, but this is a big deal to keep the lights on and the government running through most of next year. yes, october 2016. kelly kelly o donnell, appreciate it. coming up, the connections between the san bernardino terrorists and why they weren t seen until it was too late. it s a fascinating history. we have it for you after this. america s electricity comes from cleaner- burning natural gas.