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he made it very clear that we were going to be fed to the alligators if we didn t go through with this. reporter: you did have another option. you could ve just paid them the money and walked away. we thought about that. it was $100,000 that he wanted at that point. i don t think they would have went away. and we both came to the same conclusion. reporter: but isn t it easier, though, to just not kill someone and walk away and take the money? yes. it just at the time we did not feel that that was an option. we didn t feel that they were going to stop. reporter: despite their fears, kelly says she and ira had decided to back out anyway. we both came to our senses. we re like, this is crazy. we re not doing this. reporter: i think people are going to have a hard time believing that you really didn t want it to go through after everything you had done to set the plan in motion. if we really wanted to do this, he would have been paid. coming up with $100,000 for me woul
like, no, we want ira to come out. you know, we need him to get him to commit. no matter what happens, you make sure that the pictures stay with you. reporter: everyone was in place waiting. kelly was late. then finally, she showed. i m so sorry. you don t understand. i ve been all over the freaking world today. reporter: with his heart pounding, marckensy showed her the photos. those are the two guys. so he wants to make sure they re not going to come to work with a broken leg next week. no. they re done. what did they do to them? the less you know, the better. reporter: she seemed satisfied. and just as the detectives predicted, kelly asked to take the photos to show ira. i thought you were going to give me the pictures, too? come on. that s better for you. not to have them. better for him not to have them. so they got both guys? oh, yeah. reporter: the salesman followed the detectives instructions perfectly, but then he came up with an idea all on his ow
reporter: then the good doctor said what law enforcement was waiting to hear. i ll tell her. if she gives you the okay, then it came from me. reporter: to detectives ears, ira was admitting he was the one pulling the strings, not kelly. it was a critical moment. but just as they were ready to high five each other, ira turned around and pointed to something in the back seat. what s this little thing between the seats here? reporter: he was looking directly at the hidden camera. are you on the edge of your seats when he s pointing to that camera? oh, yeah, are you kidding me? this is it, he s looking right at the camera. we re done. but marckensy does a great job. he leans back and goes that s something for the kids games where they plug into it. that s the receiver for the headsets. that s the receiver for the headsets? receiver for the headsets. all right. [ laughter ] reporter: crisis averted. then without skipping a beat, ira moved on to the details of how s
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