their mom? because i saw someone that i loved being hurt. and it was not going to come to an end. she was never going to stop. reporter: did you both imagine life without susan? of course. reporter: and what was that life without her around? peaceful. reporter: despite her fantasy of a peaceful life with susan out of the picture, ira and kelly claim they had second thoughts, but there was a problem. did you say to marckensy, we don t want to do this? yeah, i told him. reporter: and what did he say? he said there s no backing out. reporter: in an impromptu meeting where there were no police recordings, kelly claims marckensy told her a terrifying story about another client of his who wanted out. he explained to me that he has to pick up a girl and bring her to the men and they re going to be feeding her to alligators. reporter: did you take that as they could feed us to the alligators? absolutely.
reporter: do you think she took what you told her the wrong way? i think she did. she believed that i would harm the guy. reporter: but he says he s no hit man. the woman was just hearing what she wanted to hear. she sound like she was so desperate to get this done. i think any little information she would have forced herself to believe it. reporter: he says he played along, trying to see if she was serious. i told her that it s not something that i do, but i could potentially get her in touch with the people that could possibly do it. reporter: and did you have any background in law enforcement? no. reporter: you re just a regular guy. a regular guy who hangs out with cops. you pick up a few things here and there. reporter: his unofficial police training kicked in. to make his story more believable, he says he got specific about the men he would use to do the hit. these guys are, like, top black ops. reporter: was she interested? she was. reporter: after
i did. reporter: but it didn t stop you? no. reporter: why was this more important than those kids having their mom? because i saw someone that i loved being hurt. and it was not going to come to an end. she was never going to stop. reporter: did you both imagine life without susan? of course. reporter: and what was that life without her around? peaceful. reporter: despite her fantasy of a peaceful life with susan out of the picture, ira and kelly claim they had second thoughts, but there was a problem. did you say to marckensy, we don t want to do this? yeah, i told him. reporter: and what did he say? he said there s no backing out. reporter: in an impromptu meeting where there were no police recordings, kelly claims marckensy told her a terrifying story about another client of his who wanted out. he explained to me that he has to pick up a girl and bring her to the men and they re going
police station nearby i always call for any reason whatsoever. reporter: do you think she took what you told her the wrong way? i think she did. she believed that i would harm the guy. reporter: but he says he s no hit man. the woman was just hearing what she wanted to hear. she sound like she was so desperate to get this done. i think any little information she would have forced herself to believe it. reporter: he says he played along, trying to see if she was serious. i told her that it s not something that i do, but i could potentially get her in touch with the people that could possibly do it. reporter: and did you have any background in law enforcement? no. reporter: you re just a regular guy. a regular guy who hangs out with cops. you pick up a few things here and there. reporter: his unofficial police training kicked in. to make his story more believable, he says he got specific about the men he would use to do the hit. these guys are, like, top black ops
reporter: why was this more important than those kids having their mom? because i saw someone that i loved being hurt. and it was not going to come to an end. she was never going to stop. reporter: did you both imagine life without susan? of course. reporter: and what was that life without her around? peaceful. reporter: despite her fantasy of a peaceful life with susan out of the picture, ira and kelly claim they had second thoughts, but there was a problem. did you say to marckensy, we don t want to do this? yeah, i told him. reporter: and what did he say? he said there s no backing out. reporter: in an impromptu meeting where there were no police recordings, kelly claims marckensy told her a terrifying story about another client of his who wanted out. he explained to me that he has to pick up a girl and bring her to the men and they re going to be feeding her to alligators. reporter: did you take that as they could feed us to the