instead of looking at realities, administrations continually try to come up with solutions that are driven by politics and focus on punishment, which they prefer to call deterrence. if you remember, during obama we saw record removals. he got called the deporter-in-chief. under trump we saw the horror of family separations. now biden is proceeding with significant restriction on this the right to asylum. yet here we are, no matter who s president, no matter which of these approaches they try, here we are again. here are the asylum seekers. they have humanitarian needs that are going to have to be met. i don t have to remind you. it s not just the border communities. cities like new york, chicago, miami all struggling to accommodate the inflow. what practical steps, given when you just said, what practical steps do you want to see them take to transform the immigration system? well, i think that there are a number of solutions out there. the problem that is they just
obama deported far more people than all the presidents before him. he at some point, became the deporter-in-chief. if you re a criminal, you ll be deported. but obama focused removal efforts on people who had serious criminal convictions. our country is full. trump instead focused on 20, 30-year-old low level crimes that people had committed in their youth. so a lot of the people who ended up facing deportation under the trump administration were people who had jobs, friends, communities who had been living in the us for decades. baba had been working as a porter in the upper east side at the time of his detention. but he had some minor convictions from early on in his time in the us over street vending and like really low level stuff. we started looking at his case and we thought, you know, let s try a pardon. he s super sympathetic, he s got this beautiful family. his convictions were incredibly minor really long time ago.
obama deported far more people than all the presidents before him. he at some point, became the deporter-in-chief. if you re a criminal, you ll be deported. but obama focused removal efforts on people who had serious criminal convictions. our country is full. trump instead focused on 20, 30-year-old low level crimes that people had committed in their youth. so a lot of the people who ended up facing deportation under the trump administration were people who had jobs, friends, communities who had been living in the us for decades. baba had been working as a porter in the upper east side at the time of his detention. but he had some minor convictions from early on in his time in the us over street vending and like really low level stuff. we started looking at his case and we thought, you know, let s try a pardon. he s super sympathetic, he s got this beautiful family. his convictions were incredibly minor really long time ago.
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