failed because this man is continuing to use a seditious lies to try to hold on to power in this country, is illegally pressuring witnesses to not give testimony to one of the branches of government that has a sacred obligation to protect the constitution. i mean, if you think about it, we have candidates all over the country proudly campaigning on this seditious lie. it is time. i feel very strongly that there is a mountain of evidence now about this man s state of mind and exactly what went down, and that when he couldn t do it legally, he said screw the law. i don t care about the law. i want to hold on to power, and that is a crime. well, so much there to unpack in your one response, claire. i think in some ways, the quietest witness was the most tragic one. it was mr. ayers. he was one such radicalized trump supporter. he described himself as a family man and a working man. he said everything about his life has changed. in an eerie way, there was an echo to a life bein
one of our hearings has contained surprises, and we are full of surprises, so i hope you ll tune in next week. we will, and i guess what i hear you saying is buy only refundable car rentals or any sort of summer travel. it was a day of incredible revelations, congresswoman stephanie murphy, i imagine it s been a long day. i m grateful for you taking time to talk to katy and myself. thank you. the committees that get to this point is more forthcoming with what they have and less afraid to say, yeah, we got that and yeah, we got more. it seems for a while they really did not want to set expectations too high. except raskin saying we re going to blow the roof off the place. i wonder if somebody got to him because suddenly everybody got very tight-lipped. they ve been very cautious on how they have described what is coming up because they understand if they set the bar too high and don t deliver on it, the american public is going to say i m sorry, this is not what i expected i
i m concerned that there s not enough happening fast enough. katy s absolutely right that the notion of fraud, a distrust in the electoral process has been planted long ago, long ago, and, you know, you fast forward to putting people in strange places with just a couple of weeks left in his administration, why is he changing out people at dod? why does he insert somebody in the general counsel s office at nsa? why is he looking for a new acting attorney general? what is that about with days left in your administration? that s also something that really needs to get discussed as part of an overall plan to put the people in place that needs. and it s still happening in plain sight. the notion of fraud distrust in election outcomes is strategic. it s happening throughout the united states, whether it s steve bannon behind it or proud boys going local. we see what s happening with secretary of state positions. we see what s happening with
today with some of our most favorite reporters and friends. i pulled my friend and colleague katy tur over. she s been helming our coverage all day long. and we re also joined by frank figliuzzi. also joining us former senator and msnbc political analyst claire mccaskill. frank figliuzzi, i want to start with you on this bombshell. do we have you, frank? i saw frank. claire, liz cheney in what has s becoming i think we can call it on brand for her revealing some really stunning testimony that donald trump himself engaged in what could only be described as witness tampering. yeah, you know, i m struck right at this moment, nicolle with the stark realization, and that is everything we ve heard in these committee hearings stands for the proposition that so far our rule of law has