united states has coming due, it s really november 1st when they have $67 billion of payments that have to go out the door all on the same day. stop saying that. thursday. the question is whether or not markets will start to freak out on thursday or tomorrow when we get closer to it and looks like, hey, wait a second, looks like this thing isn t going to happen. unpredictable. if there isn t pain come thursday, a lot of members don t believe the debt ceiling is a real thing at all. they are going to dig in further and say why should we do anything. if it s not hurting my people back home, why should i care. this is like katrina coverage. i remember in the early evening katrina barreling towards new orleans, not so bad. a couple of hours it went dark and then we woke up to half a city under water. part of it we re much like hurricane katrina in uncharted testimony, we don t really actually know what happens when