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this would be the most expansive usurpation of legislative authority by thingtive branch if it were by the executive branch because it s the sheer dollar figure is beyond anything that could be contemplated by interpreting a statute that at the time never thought this would be a use of it, and suddenly that s the interpretation of it. so i think you re right. i think that the doj and the administration knew this was a very tenuous argument but wanted to fulfill that campaign promise in some way. neil: yeah. it worked in that sense. katie, thank you. always good seeing you, my friend. well, you know that lee zeldin narrowly lost out becoming the first republican to be elected governor of new york, but he was very instrumental and maybe given the backdrop of crime and the economy in seeing four or five, well, blue seats turn red in the empire state. i want you to meet the republican who probably butte down the biggest of all

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