decade or two. that takes a long time to do. right now we can drill and explore and flood that market with the u.s. gas and oil and that s what s going to make us a little safer here in america. katie: you need oil to get the drug miles in the panels, but judge, isn t the pain the point that they are trying to squeeze americans to say the alternative energy is not for that? definitely is the point. i m one of the skeptics. but here s what happened. and 2021 when joe biden came in, he is the one that made russia the top source of gasoline and the refined petroleum for the united states, joe biden did that. he is the one who shut down the keystone pipeline. joe biden is the one who now is pushing us towards the green energy nonsense because it is not nonsense, it s a good thing. it ll be great. but he has been holding to aoc and the left-wing marxist progressives and in the end he
greatness, so that undermines the entire narrative. he is not crazy, that s a purely rational desire for somebody who loves this country. if people hear me say that they are like outcome my god, he is appeasing him, no, i m just not trying to read his mind and say that he is crazy. i m trying to look at his actions and see what he is doing. it does not matter if he is crazy, and fact it s better if your enemy thinks you are crazy, right? i don t think he is crazy. i m looking at what he is doing, i think this is what his end game is and that s it. jeanine: if you are an autocrat for 20 years and are increasingly isolating yourself, people say yes for 20 years, that does not mean that you have lost your mind or that you don t know what you are doing. katie: i do think that he has this view as ukraine as an immediate post-civil era where everybody will be happy with him rolling in and saying we are part of russia, let s all be
so they are part of the same kinship they are. but you see, this is an anything that we can look at and say, oh, let them do their thing. this is about raw power going after the map of europe. i know we are seeing for the first time since world war ii russian tanks on the plains of europe. and they will not stop here. they will continue to go. so the question is, you know, it is vladimir putin holding back? is he doing the 1100 military installations not affecting the infrastructure because he wants to occupy and use the infrastructure? and if he intentionally going a little slower, but is he now saying, these people are stronger than i thought. now i m going to hit civilians? we will see. jesse: of course they have screwed up supply lawns and the strategy, because the russians are usually sloppy and slow, but brutal, katie. then i think we gave the ukrainians a bunch of stingers for the very first time and our javelins are having some effect.
katie: greg brings up the question of who is ukraine more important to the united states or russia? and the president believes that it is important to the ukrainian people wanting to be their sovereign country. he and he is wrestling russians being born in ukraine, ukrainians be there, the speech when he spoke in russian directly to the russian people and said we are two different countries, but we share many different cultures and we can live next to each other in peace and we don t want this war. and you are seeing a number of thousands of people protesting the streets against what vladimir putin has done. now there is a question about what his frame of mind is. we don t know. people are calling him crazy. we don t know what he is thinking. but we have a history of the way that he has behaved in other parts of the world and what he has gotten away with in places like syria. the reports of using cluster bombs for example does not bode well for what is to come. however, you are seein
wants us all and electric cars so that we can be reliance on china and be a battery. it don t you just see? they are pushing for it these people. katie: there were thoughts about them being beholden to the climate change even when it is not working out. i m fascinated by the conversation, looking at people of space, so you stomp it. but we consumed 20 and a half barrels of oil in the united states, 42 gallons a barrel which means we consume over 850 million gallons of gasoline in this country a day. now that number needs to come down. in middle of a war posture, we should think long and hard about producing stuff that will endanger us or for that matter risk our chances and jeopardize her chances of helping the ukrainians when the effort. i am one that believes we can have a clean energy future are not the same time recognize that when you get on an airplane you are not looking for wind and solar battery coming have to