also considering bringing more charges against paul manafort. that s after they say manafort lied to them multiple times violating his plea deal. joining me now is msbc legal analyst katie feign and glenn kirschn kirschner. tell us where this investigation is heading. everybody was wondering when and if the connection between michael cohen and robert mueller was going to happen. we never saw the direct connection until now. what a huge bombshell it has resulted in. we know michael cohen has met at least seven tombs with robert mueller and his team and provided voluntary cooperation.
saying there are no contradictions between what michael cohen is saying and trump jr. s senate testimony. is there legal jeopardy in your mind? could there be for don jr. and potentially ivanka? there could be, alex. i don t think the charge that he pled guilty to recently in and of itself is all that consequential, but i agree with katie that what mueller is doing is he is building the bridge between the campaign and russia and he has now used michael cohen as part of his construction of a bridge. when it comes to the kid, ivanka and don jr., i think there are a couple of real danger areas but we heard that michael cohen lied to congress about, among other things, keeping the kids, keeping donald trump s kids informed about what was going on on this potential deal with russia. and, you know, that is really dangerous because what did we come to learn some months ago? michael cohen is not above
surreptitiously tape recording conversations. when i heard his plea included information about keeping donald trump s kids up to speed, i have to say, we ve heard this before but i was thinking to myself, lordy, i hope there are tapes because we don t know what michael cohen has been taping but we may hear more about that in the future. tapes aside, katie, the fact that michael cohen has been proven to lie, he s admitted to doing that, how much does that taint any kind of testimony he has? if you re an attorney and you re trying to get information out of him, how much do you believe what he is saying? zo you have to lo do you haveo the motivation? does that challenge anything he says? having a flip or having a cooperating defendant is nothing new. you kind of have to take every they say with a grain of salt. but what i suspect with robert mueller in terms of the impeccable way his reputation is