editor for ramparts magazine. first time i heard about the symbionese liberation army, jack and i had moved to new york. it was in the media. it was very fascinating, especially since we had lived in berkeley for so long. and then the massacre in l.a. happened. jack s first response was, i want to write a piece, i want to write a story about who these people are. you know, this these are america s children. jim kilgore and kathy saliah were a couple at the time. they came to him and said, we think we have some people that you might be interested in meeting. jack comes out to berkeley and they blindfolded him and drove him around for a while. and then they ended up in this apartment up in north berkeley.