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that they have to follow. i know it took a minute, but i am glad, kathy, that you explained that. because i think there are a lot of folks that are wondering, how did this even get up to the court? exactly. but it is no coincidence to me that it is north carolina s legislature that won state courts out of the equation when it comes to drawing congressional maps. because i remember, about three years ago, when a three judge panel throughout the state s republican mauve. and accused the legislature of acting with what they called surgical precision and a highly partisan way. particularly targeting black voters. or disadvantage-ing black voters. so what do the justices have to say during arguments, if you can, quickly. in the supreme court, the justices, one by one, ask really hard questions. and this court arguments process took three hours. which is three times longer than usual. because they were really asking, where are you getting this blt
right-wing idea called the independent state legislator theory. okay, i m using all the quotes because it is, french it is a victory. it removes state courts from the oversight of federal elections. and it gives unchecked powers to state legislators. here is justice elena kagan in this week s hearing, take a listen to what she has to say. this is a proposal that gets rid of the normal checks and balances on the way big governmental decisions are made in this country. and you might think that it gets rid of all of those checks and balances out exactly the time when they are needed most. i am joined now by kathy fong, she is the national researching director for common cause, which has been fighting this case. kathy, thank you so much for being here. let s just start with this. why do people need to pay attention to more ev harper. thank you, simone. i think the reason why a common causes fighting so hard to make sure that every day people understand what is at stake with more the
state court decides. that it does create a potential area for review that would have to be very differential to those courts. but maybe we would want to make sure that nothing that that state court does this out of line with the federal constitution. that might be the compromise. i am scared, i m telling you, cathy, i am scared. because let me just say, north carolina, honey. they have been doing nefarious things in that state legislator for a very long time. kathy fong, thank you very very much for breaking it down, all your expertise, appreciate your time. thank you so much, and happy birthday, symone. i thank you, thank you. after the break, we will keep the good times rolling here, y all. i m very excited to be joined by a very special guest. the emmy award-winning actress cheryl lee ralph is in the simone spotlight, that is next, stay with us. stay with us moderate to severe eczema still disrupts my skin.
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