and their respective attorneys beth krulewitch for nancy styler, greg greer for kathy carpenter were deciding their strategies, analyzing the evidence. the evidence, as i was seeing it, suggested to me very strongly that kathy carpenter may have done this and that she was setting up the stylers. kathy carpenter is innocent, innocent, innocent. i can t say that enough. keith morrison: but deputy da andrea bryan and her investigator, lisa miller, were preparing to argue it was a conspiracy involving all three. and then, less than two weeks before that hearing in the process of getting all of your material together for the preliminary hearing, what happened? i got a phone call from my assistant district attorney one afternoon. saying? saying that he had spoken with a defense attorney, specifically williams styler s defense attorney, and that william styler wanted to make a statement.
kathy carpenter was that teller. and one day in 2013, out of the blue, nancy asked her to lunch. kathy accepted. and learned firsthand another of nancy s hallmark traits. she was sometimes brutally honest. no edit button? no edit button. i like that. yes. no edit button. she actually when i first met her told me that i was very fat. what a thing to say to somebody when you first meet them! hi, be my friend, your fast! yeah. your beautiful but your fat! so, she was blunt. undiplomatic. but, irresistible. by the time lunch was over, nancy and kathy were fast friends. that s how nancy was. like when she read plans to leave town for the winter. she decided to rent her house to a retired doctor and his horticultural as wife. total strangers. who she befriended in a heartbeat. actually invited them to move in a month early.
they said we are arresting year for murder one. slap the cuffs on me and took me away. and they led my husband out in my bathrobe. what is it like for a woman who led a very successful life. who traveled around doing lectures on victoria lilies, two societies of like-minded horticultural us. to be in jail? yeah. for murder. it was a shock. it was a shock for some of nancy s friends to. like mary. the stylers? really? it was just a big surprise, and not knowing anything about these people. it just seemed outrageous. why you would do something like that. but kathy, who pointed her suspicious finger at the styler s right after the murder, practically jumped for joy. when i heard that, i was joyful that they found the person who had murdered nancy. and, i just felt that there was justice.
keith morrison: a transcription error. and though investigators said that made no real difference to them, kathy s attorney is sure the little error planted suspicion of kathy from the very beginning and started investigators off in an inaccurate and inappropriate direction. they used every technique in the book on her. and honestly, as i watched those interrogations, i started thinking, i might have confessed to doing something just to make it stop. keith morrison: and they told you you did it. yes. repeatedly? yes. and each time, what would you say? i did not do it. keith morrison: but even though it appears from the interrogation tapes that kathy did say some improbable things
when nancy s forehead was completely covered up. keith morrison: that s easy to explain, said kathy. she never actually said that. they said that i saw her forehead. yes. i did not see her forehead. i saw blood on the headboard. keith morrison: headboard? in fact, crime scene techs did find blood on nancy pfister s headboard. but headboard is not the word that appears in the type transcript of the 911 call. greg greer: and on page three of that transcript, it says, i saw blood on her forehead. keith morrison: kathy s attorney, greg greer. i go home and listen to the tape. and i hear headboard. but i listened to it, i bet, 10 times by myself before i told anybody else. keith morrison: sure enough, kathy in that 911 call, did actually say headboard, not forehead.