Chief of staff for laura bush and for Michelle Obama and i wonder if you can tell us about the organization that a first lady needs and why she needs it and how you interact with the west wing because you both had titles not only of chief of staff to the first lady but assistant to the president , and so how did those titles Work Together . Would you like me to start susan . Sure. Well, theres no doubt that just looking at the Organization Chart which i know you have over a number of years its clearly grown. The east wing staff has clearly grown and i think that is a direct result of just how much more is expected of the role of the first lady and what she chooses to do with her platform, which is a privilege to represent the people of the United States both at home and around the world and there is this increased expectation and also with it the pressure to do something with this opportunity. So the staff grows to support the initiatives, and the initiatives are selected by a first la