separation of children with their families there s question how the outrage will lead to change in policy. talk a bit if you would about how this focus on i.c.e. has come about? well, look, i think a lot of it is meant to rev up the baes, the democratic base ahead of the mid-term elections and maybe even looking farther beyond that to the 2020 presidential election. you sigh many of these potential contenders like kamal aharris and elizabeth warren saying the agency should be abolished outright and you re seeing a xis m is notable. we ve reported at the daily beast that the congressional hispanic caucus, preeminent coalition of hispanic lawmakers on capitol hill, all democrats, distributing talking points saying that abolish i.c.e. not so fast. the reasons why are because they know that the agency also deals with things like narcotics