involved with when we met with him and we don t want to talk about it. several weeks ago, the head of the justice department s criminal division met with mr. giuliani to discuss a bribery case in which he and other attorneys were representing the defendants. the meeting took place before the case in manhattan, with trying to unlawfully influence politicians. here was the statement that doj put out that sunday. when fraud section lawyers met with mr. giuliani, they were not aware of any investigation of mr. juligiuliani s associates ie southern district of new york, they would not have met with him had they known. at the time, nobody knew what that meeting was or who this was who was facing bribery charges, who giuliani got into the justice department.
position with ukraine security assistance? yes. he expressed frustrations about not understanding the reason for the hold. that s my recollection. was this individual within the legal division? no. question. are you aware of any individual in the legal division resigning or leaving omb? at least in part because of ukraine security assistance? oh, yes, i am, meaning you re asking him about this person who left from the legal division. he s telling them about a whole other person who resigned too. oh, yeah, i know someone who quit the legal office too. what do you know about that, this person in the legal office expressed to me concerns about actions, vis-a-vis the impoundment control act. in the context of the ukraine security assistance yes, i am
met with him and we really don t want to talk about this. it was very, very odd. this is how the new york times wrote it up at the time. quote, several weeks ago brien benchkowski, the head of the justice department s criminal division and lawyers from the division s fraud section met with mr. giuliani to discuss a bribery case in which he and the other attorneys were representing the defendants. that meeting took place before u.s. attorneys in manhattan publicly charged two giuliani associates, lev parnas and igor fruman, with breaking campaign finance laws and trying to unlawfully influence politicians. here was the statement the doj put out that sunday. quote, when mr. benchkowski and fraud section lawyers met with mr. giuliani, they were not aware of any investigation of mr. giuliani s associates in the southern district of new york. they won have met with him had they own. at the time nobody exactly knew what that meeting was or who this was facing bribery charges, who giuliani
assistance. he depressed some frustrations about not understanding the reason for the hold. that s my recollection. question, was this individual within the legal division? answer, no. question, are you aware of any individual in the legal division resigning or leaving omb? answer, oh. question, at least in part because of ukraine security assistance. answer, oh, oh. yes, i am. meaning they were asking him about this person they had heard left from the legal division. he started telling them about a whole other person who resigned too and then he has to clarify i know somebody who quit the legal division too. and this person in the legal office expressed to me concerns about actions visa vi the impoundment control act. question, in the context of the ukraine security assistance and the hold. answer, ques, i m aware of this person s frustrations in that area, yes. question, okay so this person