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that indictment also included two new obstruction charges, against trump, and another charge for this 2021 encounter at trump s bedminster golf club, where he described a u.s. military plane of attack on another country. this was done by the military and given to me. i think that we can probably will have to see. declassify. because i m president, i can declassify it. but now i can t. isn t that interesting? the document the former president was showing at that meeting is charged as count 32. and on tuesday, the d.c. grand jury looking into 2020 election it will begin after trump s legal team spoke with the special counsel s office last thursday. this all sparking expectations that donald trump could be criminally indicted again soon.

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chair of the january six committee. we re going to get into what he expects to see in the next indictment and what s at stake for democracy now. meanwhile, trump is out on the campaign trail joining opponents in iowa. most of them are still dancing around the elephant in the room. i m simone sanders townsend, and i have something to say. this week was full of surprises, the classified documents case just got a whole lot worse for former president donald trump and some of his employees. a superseding indictment unsealed on thursday comes with new charges. previously undisclosed evidence and additional defendant and the historic case. for trump, this includes one additional counts of willful

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retention and two additional counts of obstruction. for a grand total of 40 criminal counts. trump s personal aide walt nauta saw at the same to obstruction charges in addition to the 60 already faced in the initial indictment. and now, there is a third defendant, mar-a-lago property manager carlos dead live europe. he s been indicted on for charges including conspiracy to obstruct justice and he will be on court on monday. the details behind these new charges are astounding. picture it, mar-a-lago, june 2022. fbi agents arrive on june 3rd to begin collecting classified documents from trump s storage room. they notice nearby surveillance cameras. on june 22nd, the justice department since trump s lawyers a draft subpoena for that footage. and then a flurry of activity, starting with the very next day, when the former president calls de oliveira, and they speak for 24 minutes. the day after that call, the

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department of justice delivers the official subpoena, demanding the footage. on june 25th, walt nauta meats de oliveira, and they review security footage and locations. then two days later, folks, de oliveira tells of mar-a-lago i.t. employee that the boss wants the footage deleted. a jury will decide whether he will be convicted for that obstruction. this is all unfolding as another indictment against donald trump looms, one with very major implications for the future of our democracy. on thursday, donald trump s lawyers met with prosecutors in jack smith s office, according to two sources, to inspect an indictment related to trump s attempts to overturn the 2020 election. trump was a insist that s not the case. in the 944in the stormed the united states capitol, there have been more than 1000 arrests. and 551 people sentenced.

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maybe tuesday. we don t know, we don t know. former president trump has denied any wrongdoing, okay, in either of these cases. and is claiming, you guessed it, prosecutorial misconduct and political persecution. we re going to dig into all of this with my amazing legal panel. former federal prosecutor cynthia alksne, and former manhattan assistant district attorney catherine christian are both here. cynthia, first to you. did this superseding indictment clarify anything for you? i was surprised to see it. i was surprised to see it come, i what i was hoping to see the other indictment, i m looking forward to tuesday. and it does a couple things that are pretty important. it solidifies the ads obstruction case, and makes it very tangible and understandable. what you want to do is make something so simple it s easy for members of the jury to go in and go wow, how could it not be obstruction? he said the boss once the server wiped. he specifically said the boss

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