does. he reveals people. right, because for everybody else there is nothing new that donald trump would have an embrace of racist or white supremacist or antisemite. the reaction is what is interesting. maria teresa, what should everybody else do given that you say that we are watching the slow boil, we are watching the danger of a major american political party become, falling into thrall this guy who does more and more extreme things? what is to be done? i think we saw the beginning of it that voters broke the fever in the past midterm election. they were very clear that they may not espouse all of biden s policies, but they liked and trusted him. we need more of that, so we need to make sure that more good candidates get into the ring. i think part of the strategy from the far-right is to scare people. and that includes him running for office. but i have to tell you, ali, you could talk to most people who come from immigrant
of bringing people at the highest levels to justice. so i want to go for the with this point, joyce, because a lot of people have said that there have been trials in there have been convictions of other people. the reason why this is important, in fact, the case of elmer stewart rhodes, he did not enter the capital. so a lot of these things, joyce there ve been charges about people who are in a place that they were not supposed to be. rhodes was talking about the plan, he was talking about the things that he wanted trump to do. he was talking about the saying that he was prepared to do. he went on tv, he was out there talking about before january 6th in november, he was talking about the fact that they were top ready to do what donald trump needed them to do. that is the significance here, this is about the plot not about what they did on that day. that is exactly right, conspiracy charges are about the agreement to do something illegal, you do not have to actually succeed. we cr
kanye west so he knew kanye west was. he didn t know who nick fuentes was. was the president can have meetings with who wants. i don t think anyone should have a meeting with nick fuentes his view nowhere within the republican party. kanye west has i don t think those are right comments. i don t think he should be with him as well. i m very clear in my position. actually he wasn t for that clear in his position. that was kevin mccarthy disavowing nick fuentes bit but refusing to criticize the de facto leader of the republican party, that is, donald trump, and apparently there is room for antisemitism and white supremacy in the white house. he allowed out to thrive while it was in the white house in 2016. then he brought them to his florida home in 2022. there was room for antisemitism and white supremacy in the republican party when donald trump defended white nationalists in charlottesville,
even in cases where defendants have not been convicted of every count, every defendant has been convicted of something. that is not good news for donald trump. and, ali, stewart rhodes s defense was the same vague denials, attacking prosecutors that we have seen from the former president and now we are seeing that it just does not work. it s hard for jury to like a dude who turns to hang in and see pelosi and says that the president and vice president are puppets of the chinese government. it is hard for jurors to credit donald trump s big lie if prosecutors have the opportunity to lay out the evidence like they did to convict all five of these defendants. thank you to both of you for your analysis, we appreciate it. paul butler and joyce vance, always good to see you. coming up, a reality check on the economy. stay with us. liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. and by switching, you could even save $652.