you know, going back months seem to be trying to almost pressure certain witnesses. you know, there were tweets that he didn t want people to sort of it seemed like he was trying to get people to not be cooperative with the special counsel. now this seems more about trying to get it to end. and, you know, the idea that he can just end it any time, yes, i guess that s true. but even trump knows that that would cause quite a political storm and he s trying to get somebody else to do is dirty work for him. that s the way i look at it. i was just going to say, mimi, could you actually say the president, as leader of his political movement, is sending a signal to all his supporters, hey, harass jeff sessions. harass jeff sessions. he has the power here to stop this investigation. exactly. is that evidence of obstruction, if he s trying to rally political supporters to essentially harass jeff sessions
so then delineate between the point of cnn sucks and talking to an independent reporter who s just standing in front of them asking them questions at a rally. i was wondering because the other experience i know you ve had and i hope you share with viewers, the president will do this rally and beat the living day lights of the press and see the jeers come in. and then there s the whispers, hey, by the way, i respect what you do. did you get some of that last night? actually, no. welcome to tampa, i guess. they were not willing to say good job, by the way, so no. and by the way, the president has only begun to fan the be bellows on this this fall. he s trotting this amped-up version of it out and it s going to be major all the way through the fall, even more than you saw in the 2016 campaign. you know, i spoke to a class of army folks, young officers in the army last week, and i always thank them for their service. two of them thanked me for my
manafort, at this age and station, if he s facing a long jail sentence, and they threw the book at him just in this tax and fraud case, is going to want to is going to want to flip. and i think the president is calculating now, number one, whether when he can pardon manafort. if. if and. when and if and when he can fire or somehow get mueller off the case. and i think he s looking to see after the rally last night, after the rally last night where he was absorbing all the fan love, whether he s got the power and the timing to do it. you re right, i can just picture a guilty plea on monday. pardon tuesday. tweet storm on wednesday. mimi rocah, i ll let you go. much appreciate it. thank you for your expertise. susan, michael and howard are penalized and stuck with me for the rest of the hour. we are only two days into the trial. as you heard, things are already
incriminating? you have said you thought this was obstruction in plain sight? i would say it s a good piece of evidence of obstruction in plain sight. and here s why the plain sight part doesn t matter. take what he wrote in the tweet, put it in a text to a close confidant and assume let s pretend the government found that text and read it. would it look like evidence of obstruction? i think here what we re saying, as you said, i mean you said it perfectly. if he called sessions into his office and told him to fire him or if he wrote what he thought was a secret e-mail to sessions saying you should end this investigation, that would look really bad. and should versus must? that s what giuliani that s what this is going to come down to? that shows the weakness of where their argument is. let me play sarah sanders response here for the panel. she too they clearly they clearly colluded on the idea that twir tter is now an opinio page for the president. take a listen.
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