and instead of listening to them and taking them seriously, they continue to believe that these people are racists, bigots, have to be shunned. that s what we see in both of these cases. bert: the media who cover media say this was just celebrity media that made the mistake of jumping. not the case. we have a lot of example of that. but tmz s harvey levin on america s newsroom today. i didn t say i believed it. what we said was this is what jussie sad. i never said we believe that. we reported what jussie said happened. we can tell you that from the beginning, police had suspicions. we knew about the suspicions, but they on the record were saying that we consider him a victim. bert: we are going to let this play out, amy, and see where it goes. but it s clearly going one direction. which is the opposite of where it started. honestly, i saw this tory bubble up on twitter. once i saw it kind of going the way we saw the covington story where it was the left and the