note to the judge asking what if we can t come to a consensus on one count. the judge sent them back to deliberate. now, at this point, we don t know which count they re stuck on. it s not actually clear from looking at the 18 counts which one would be a stand out. we don t know if they reached decisions on the other charges. 18 counts in total that they have to consider. the jury of 12 men and women have been deliberating for 24 hours now. pete williams is at the court for us. a lot of back and forth for this. did the jury say that they were stuck on one count or did they say what if we can t come to an agreement even on one count? do we think they sorted most of it out and they re stuck on one? let s do the best we can with going to the videotape, which is to read the words from the transcript. okay. of the jury s question submitted to the judge. if we cannot come to a consensus on a single count, how should we fill in the jury verdict form for that count? and what does that me
san francisco and legal analyst mark geragos is live in los angeles. good to have both of you. we ve covered lots of trials where we have tried to get inside the head of jurors while they re at deliberations and wonder why they re taking so long. it s a terrible question to ask except in this case when his own attorney said he did it, what do you think could possibly be taking so long for jurors who have to click yes or no on the box? mark, i ll start with you. i think the jury verdict form, if you take a look at it, is 32 pages. it has subparts to it. it s as complicated a verdict form as you will see even in a civil case. and they re going through it and the way that it s worded, i think their questions today were spot-on because it just throws in there aiding and abetting and throws in there conspiracy in not exactly the best commonsensuous of the language. i think that is part of the
members of tsarnaev. i think during the penalty phase you will hear some of that you will hear how he grew up. you will hear more about his brother s influence on him. what this defense ultimately wants to do is get one juror not to go for the death penalty here. we know he will be convicted on at least one of the death penalty counts. some are a little more difficult, martha. they have the indictment in front of them. and a 30-page jury verdict form. they have to flip back and forth to figure this out. this time they re take something completely acceptable and expected. martha: quick final thought if you can, robert. i was going to say that fact he wrote it in the boat shows fact even after he saw the carnage and no remorse and justified what he did. the defense is doing a great job but they will not overcome that evidence. guilty death penalty. martha: we ll bring you back. there is a lot to discuss and they re still in there. great to have you here today. bill: jon scott coming up
and racketeering, that s the basis of the whole case. yeah, i don t know why they brought those questions back. i looked at that and thought, huh, they would not be in the jury instructions if they didn t apply to the case. the judge said you should not be concerned about that. 32 criminal charges. in fact, on count 2 there are 33 acts they must consider. here is the jury verdict form. it s seven pages long. this probably is going to be a long deliberation if they re going through each and every decision they have to make. whitey bulger, 83-year-old on trial. he could face life in prison which in effect would be a death sentence to whitey bulger if he is, in fact, convicted of that. last friday he made the decision in court that he would not testify. he called the entire proceedings a sham. told the judge just do with me what you will because he doesn t feel like he s gotten a fair trial, andrea. we should point out that this is really like a movie. the trial has already gone
going for his gun has to rest on trayvon martin trying to grab his gun, right? at that point that is critical. if trayvon martin can t get to his gun, that s the problem. and he only talks about one punch to the face. independe i m not minimizing it, a punch to the face is a bad thing. if i can just add, i m looking at the jury verdict form. so the first option the jurors have is we the jury find george zimmerman guilty of murder in the second degree as charged in the information and, second, we the jury find george zimmerman guilty of manslaughter, a lesser included offense. you might interpret, i m reading tea leaves here that if you re talking about manslaughter, they have moved on from murder in the second degree, if they had found him guilty of murder in the second degree, why would they be talking about manslaughter? that would be logically inconsistent. they don t have to go in the order of the verdict form, they