whatsoever. okay. thank you. it sound like they re bringing in the jury right now. the jury is coming in and getting situated and then we are waiting. joey, are we going to hear guilty or not guilty? are we going to hear that? this is a civil trial. it s assessed in terms of liability or not liable. liable or not liable. if you re liable you get to the issue of damages which are monetary. if not liable, there s nothing further to discuss. whether amber heard is liable or not liable. first johnny, are you defaming johnny depp and is johnny depp liable to amber heard. the standard of proof is not reasonable doubt. it s a preponderance of the evidence meaning is more likely or not. let s go back into the courtroom. can i have the attorneys roach for a moment. they re discussing something, and we done know what it is, and that s why they do it at side bar. i just want to mention there are seven members on this jury. it s not like a criminal trial. we know that there a
to the issue of appeal because you can throw out a number of figures as this jury did, but that will go through a whole bunch of machinations of appeals and even during the appeals, settlements, right, and when you look at that, the figure, right, it s a high figure, $10 million, it goes to whether or not she ll have the ability to pay. in the event she doesn t, there s all kinds of attachments and things you could ultimately do. one other issue, quickly, i want to go back to lonnie s point with respect to the inconsistency of the verdict, on the one hand, the second statement which the jury apparently credited, right, as it relates to amber heard saying johnny depp defamed me, said that this was a hoax. so how do you on the one hand as a jury credit a statement saying that, you know, they lied, that as johnny depp and his team when they called this a hoax, but on the other hand, you credit the fact that he defamed her, meaning amber heard defamed johnny depp, it seems so inconsistent.