there s a lot of talk about overclassification. it s true that we do over classified documents. we have millions of documents every that are classified, and probably don t need to be or should be declassified more rapidly. that s part of the problem. what we re seeing here is that we have more of a focus on the share volume of documents, but on the fact that we have presidential records act that doesn t have enforcement procedures and it. that is basically based on the honor system, where a number of junior staffers have to pack up boxes very hurriedly on the last couple days of the administration, and as i said before, that seems to me to be a situation that we should be looking into and make more careful steps about how we want to handle presidential transitions. glenn, i want you to come back when we have more time to dig into this. i m i ve been obsessed with this question of how the system is broken, how you fix it, and how you do it in a highly polarized political environme
god forbid, deliberately system to remove inappropriate documents. do you think it is just about that period of transition? or do you think there s something bigger and broader in the system that could be remedied but? there s a lot of talk about overclassification. it is true that we do over classified documents. we have millions and millions of documents every year that are classified. and probably don t need to be, should be declassified more rapidly. that is clearly part of the problem. i think we re seeing here is we have more of a focus mountain mission the sheer volume of documents. but on the fact that we have a presidential records act that doesn t have enforcement procedures in it. which is basically based on the honor system. we re a number of junior staffers have to pack a boxes. on the last couple of days of administration. as i said before. that seems to be a situation that we should be looking into, and make more careful steps about how we want to handle presidential
one of them that testified were using neuralizers, had their mind swabbed, except for a few key witnesses that were lower hanging fruit that were junior staffer whose decided to come forward. one of the things i found really interesting, david, was the fact that hutchinson came back and said not only did i witness mark meadows putting paper in the fireplace and burning them, but i also remember clearly marjorie taylor greene looking at the photos and saying don t worry, my followers are going to be there, qanon is going to be there. talk about that. is that surprising to you that we re seeing more revelations of this, of marjorie taylor greene really being part of this what seemed concerted effort? no, not really. i think what you re seeing is an investigation that s complex, when you have thousands of witnesses, either your junior staffers or you re completely ignorant actors of the law are
neuralyzer s, except for acute key witnesses that or lower hanging fruit that were junior staffers who decided to come forward. one of the things that i found really interesting, david, was the fact that hutchinson came back and said, not only did eyewitness mark meadows putting paper in the power plays and burning them, but i also remember clearly marjorie taylor greene looking at the photos and saying, don t worry, my followers are going to be there. qanon is going to be there, talk a little bit about that. is it surprising that we are seeing more revelations of this, that marjorie taylor greene really being part of what seems to be a concerted effort? no, not really. i think what you are seeing is an investigation that is complex. when you have thousands of witnesses, either your junior staffers or completely ignorant actors of the law, are the ones that give you the most information. the obfuscation, the failed
something in terms of ethically, morally, to stop what was going on, is that something that struck you as well from junior staffers in the white house feeling that something had to be done? absolutely struck me as remarkable. this was not a bunch of bernie sanders democrats testifying, these were loyal, lifetime republicans who were simply appalled by donald trump s actions in inciting the mob and encouraging the mob and felt they had to get out and tell they had to get out and tell the truth and it wasn tjust the truth and it wasn tjust the staffers, it was donald trumpjunior, it was a bunker trump, it was jared kushner, his allies in the media including sean hannity, republican members of congress. everybody saw this. this wasn t something difficult to comprehend, including his most loyal supporters. comprehend, including his most loyal sopporters- loyal supporters. thank you very much loyal supporters. thank you very much indeed loyal supporters. thank you very much indeed for-