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issues that draw them to the republican party. do you think that s more what s pulling those voters back to the democrats more than, let s say, paul ryan s issues on medicare? in ohio that s a state where medicare is resonating with voters too. do you think the self-interest is coming back for these voters? well, i guess i don t i don t subscribe to the theory that white working class voters don t understand their self-interest on economic issues. i think we don t talk to them. they may in some cases vote on other issues and cultural issues. i m sure that many do. that would account for the 20% of uaw workers in toledo or youngstown that don t vote for obama or me i assume, but i think the issue is we as democrats by and large fail to talk to the white working class, particularly white working class nonunion voters. we do very well among white working class union voters but not so well among nonunion voters. that s a complex array of issues there, but we don t talk to them
i think that s why in the last nfl player lockout there was a lot of sympathy for the players. usually these things break down, millionaires versus billionaires. people were saying in a way they never have before, these guys are putting their heads on the line. even beyond public perception of unions and what we think, it s a little bit like the old line about congress where congress is unpopular but you like your congressman. i think we ve seen a lot of examples about where unions don t poll well. when a strike happens to the people they work with, like in chicago, those teachers, public opinion polls were on their side. in california when the grocery workers struck, people didn t want to pay a lot for groceries. there was sympathy. the transit union strike which was a massive pain for every new yorker. that s how people get around. i thought there would be huge public sentiment. this was 2006. there was public support. this is actually why i want to take issue with something sh
rhetoric they want, this is what you saw in the questions in the infamous 47% tape, you saw people being, why don t you go around and talk about your success, right? i think actually we re seeing the effects of big money negatively on the republicans because this big money is pushing them towards messages that aren t that effective. i don t think this is principally about big money. i think this is a message that sells to the tea party base in the republican party which does not principally consist of people that are wealthy. it is small business people which is one of the most conservative demographics voting groups in the country. people who own small businesses are much more likely to vote republican than wealthy professionals of similar economic means. so i think that the i think the reason that romney feels trapped in this message or feels compelled to keep using it is that it does sell to a significant part of his base. it s not a few people giving him money who like it. i
it doesn t mean you can ask for three times what you get and they should just give it to you. well, yeah. that would be a rounding error too. furthermore, maybe everyone else knew this but i didn t. i didn t realize most of these refs had good jobs in the real world, they re like corporate lawyers, a lot of them, some of them are traders. i m thinking, why don t they get pensions to these people who have full time jobs elsewhere. most of them seem to be pretty well paid. i guess those are my two. it s interesting that the owners are socialists who share all of their money. here s what you just said i think is fascinating. you think about these workers as refs. they are incredibly a nam mow louse workers. part time workers, they have other jobs. they re compensated quite well. if you forget about everything else and you just look at the gig they have, it s a pretty curby gig, okay? but what s amazing is that in locking them out, the owners almost like led america to marxist labo