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hollywood tape came out, when they actually went to stone and said, hey, please help us out and do this because the timing of that release after the access hollywood tape was extremely to put it coincidental. was there anything in that trial we re establishing whether someone coordinated that. observers of this concurrently while it was happening or in hindsight can conclude it was either coincidental or lucky or organized. and yet people who know stone say the guy is a big talker. he wanted everyone to think he was tied to julian assange and wikileaks but the evidence isn t clear that he was. they have not presented evidence they definitely coordinated release of the e-mails, but there s a lot of what i would say is circumstantial evidence that he was involved both on the wikileaks and at least through jerome corsi the right wing conspiracy theorist and on the trump campaign end, he talked directly to then candidate trump
believed that stone was sort of orchestrating the release of this stolen democratic e-mails. bannon said that when wikileaks released the e-mails from the clinton campaign chairman john podesta on october 7th,2016, he said he heard that stone had been involved in making that happen. and then bannon s assistant on the same day sent stone an e-mail that said well-done, just two words. so they kind of thought that stone was actually helping them actively, which is quite striking. what s the implication of that? what s the implication of them thinking they were working through stone with wikileaks and ostensibly with the russians who had done the hacking that wikileaks the information that wikileaks had? what s the implication of that on those who believe that there was some kind of coordination between the trump campaign and the russians or the trump campaign and julian assange? well, the implication i think
would be that they tried to cheat, right? one of the biggest questions after the access hollywood tape dropped about 20 minutes later wikileaks started releasing the e-mails from john podesta s inbox and the biggest question has always been did someone coordinate that? did someone on the campaign or close to the campaign coordinate that with wikileaks? and i think it was touched upon a bit that bannon did testify to the fact they believed roger stone had this power and access. and he also said that he really felt like that the moment when they needed wikileaks the most and when they felt like they needed more e-mails to come out that were damaging to the democrats and to hillary clinton, they felt like they could rely on stone as that access point. so i think that obviously raises a whole bunch of questions whether they were waiting for a pivotal moment in the campaign when trump was literally at his lowest point. republicans and allies left and right after the access
on june 14th, 2016. that s the day the dnc announced they d been hacked by the russians. stone talked to trump that day. and then on july 31st stone also talked to trump. and just an hour later stone directed corsi to go to london and see what he could find out from assange about the e-mails. so that s a pretty strong circumstantial suggestion that the president was perhaps putting stone up to this effort to find out what wikileaks what kind of e-mails wikileaks had and when they were going to release them. natasha, i don t know if you had a chance to review what bannon was doing inside the court and outside. in both cases he was going out of his way to indicate he was not participating in this proceeding willingly. he would not have shown up or spoken to a grand jury with subpoena. he seemed to be sending some sort of message he doesn t want to be here, he wouldn t be doing this willingly?
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