Collecting it, they were not passing it to you, they were passing it to State Department . Department of defense . This is what they reported to me. I have not seen the documents that have been collected. I only know those documents that i have produced or that my staff at my staff has brought to my attention or that i have received. So no, i do not know what has happened with the documents that have been collected. Same general question to you, sir. I requested it wants given access to documents that had originated or were sent to me for the pertinent matters of this investigation during a finite. Back. I dont have information about what is going on in terms of other documents that i did not produce or do not receive. There was a move to gather them, and i understood generally and directly and informally that they had been gathered. That is the extent of my knowledge. It is not my area of
responsibility. Yes, but did they pass them on to you or did they pass them on to the administrat
could be implemented, and proffered that perhaps a reprogramming action would be the way to do this. but that more research would need to be done. so then after that discussion, we had a lower level discussion at my level on the 31st of july. let me ask you about the jul. based on your conversations with colleagues at the dod. at the july 31st interagency meeting, did you share your understanding of a legal mechanisms that were available at that time? yes, sir. what were they? i expressed that it was my understanding that there were two ways that we would be able to implement presidential guidance to stop obligating the ukraine security assistance initiative. in the first option would be for the president to do a rescission. the second is a reprogramming action that the department of defense would do. both of those would require congressional notice? yes. there would be an extra step