helping? because we spoke to many people in the black and brown communities who were still reeling from their policies of stop-and-frisk. with the over populations of rikers island. so i think it is really a perception. who you ask really depends on what view of rudy giuliani will get. i am glad you said who you ask. because you mentioned julia reed. you also spoke to bill de blasio. and jamie. raskin what was a calculus that went into the thought process of deciding who you thought would be accurate, historians and people that could talk about this evolution of rudy giuliani? i think it is important in a story like this, when you think you know the story, to really get people that are deeply inside. and that means on all of the different sides. we did have his, son andrew giuliani, willie talk through the human aspect of which i think is important. but as you mentioned, we also have these great political
the salad thing is famous. hand-tossed in the same wooden bowl for decades. the hot tamales, same as they ever was. julia reed: and doe s tamales are just incredible because they re made with the steak drippings and stuff that you re getting ready to see, so it anthony: oh yeah. oh really. julia reed: greatly enhances the flavor. oh my god. john currence: i could eat em till i was sick. anthony: fries done in cast-iron pan on the stovetop. the famous shrimp. steaks on an old rollout broiler. drippings all over the top. julia reed: and, you know, you re not gonna get skinny or healthy eating the hot tamales and fried shrimp and steak at doe s. there s no question about it. anthony: oh that s good. happy. it s the grease that makes it. uh-huh. man, that s good. and you re right about those shrimp, they are delicious. julia reed: the shrimp? anthony: yeah. julia reed: oh yeah. anthony: is there a dessert that i should be saving room for? julia reed: are you ki