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and the ohio measure this past week. when you look at special elections where the issue of a woman s choice is put up in front of voters, voters continue to reject the republican position and i think what is interesting, sean hannity quoted bill clinton, he could quote a republican. when bush 43 was asked about this in 2000, he said, listen, i think the way to approach this is by changing hearts and minds, and i suppose that could be true for either side of this debate. what george bush 43 recognized is politically, many of the hardened positions of the republican party are out of step with where general election voters are. this is a deeply passionate issue for so many people. all you have to do is dispassionately look at the data and it tells you the american people prefer a roe framework over a dobbs framework, and republicans keep falling on their faces trying to go the other direction. rev, just last week when i interviewed julia chavez

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