Warlike situation, relationship changed but the dependency of one group on the other continued. It was either about money or influence by them is pretty much prevalent in different ways through different presidencies weve had throughout our history but the history i cover specifically since Teddy Roosevelt administration until today. Host is there a reason you picked that starting point . Guest yes. First of all it was only so much time i had an life basically to do a couple of centuries versus one but really what happened was as we know there was a crisis, a crash, black tuesday 1929. Not want to start the book but when i realized when i researched that crash was a couple of the bankers that were most connected to the crash and most concerned about it including bankers from the morgan bank bank which we now s j. P. Morgan chase, if you trace them back, traced back to j. P. Morgan and j. P. Morgan was one of the league bankers in the country from 1890. There was this through line of in