it used to be bad pr was bad pr. now it s like any press is good, even if it s bad. exxon valdez compared bp, talk about going back, they hated the press, as they should because the press is horrible to business and oil companies especially. so they just said, we re not going to talk to you. you re the enemy. and that really hurt exxon. steve: we ll be watching stossel tonight on fox business. thank you. brian: what is bad is good. steve: tonight at 9:00 o clock. straight ahead on our show on this thursday, a.j. mccarron s girlfriend, the real winner of the college bowl game on monday night. now she might be trading in the bikini for the board room. can you say celebrity apprentice? gretchen: naomi judd is here. is her daughter ashley about to jump into politics? we ll find out. there she is. steve: here come the judds eat good fats. avoid bad. don t go over 2000.