throughout the documentary, s our serves the purpose of theme of people are often overlooked. jr the artist and director of paper & glue joins me now. good to have you here. thank you. i enjoy the documentary and i enjoy the story of the discovery of creation of how you started doing this. first with a camera. how did you learn technique? what was the process that you improved from this found objects you had? you are already doing graffiti, we had a visual sense. how did you learn how to use the device? how did i don t think if i vr learned. i think if someone can give me a course, i would absolutely love it. because i never really figured it out. as long as it looked like an image i can print, that seems good to me. so, i was not using light, i didn t understand the depth of feel. none of that. i just wanted to share something and portraits, piecing them was the main thing. so the peace step with cover, all the wrong side of the image.