me this discussion that we are talking about is taking place. how rapidly it will evolve in terms of people publicly stating the things they re saying to us, and this is a real challenge for journalists because we in the journalististic community ought to be going to military leaders and congressional republicans, to business leaders. we are. and saying on background, not saying it for the record, trying to get them to say it for the record. look, i could be wrong. maybe it is not as pervasive as my reporting would indicate, but i trust my reporting and i think what we need to be doing as reporters is asking the people we cover what is going on here, what are you prepared to do. what do you think is happening. is this man fit to be the president of the united states as you are saying in private he is not. two other points here. one is the business community interestingly did stand up and rebuke the president, take steps, gary cohn and steve man
endorsed the president. what do they say to him now? well, we need them to show moral courage, and you know, it s a shame when the president s now former manufacturing and business advisers are showing more morality and moral courage than the president s faith advisers. we did see them some of them write a letter, you know, speaking against racism and white supremacy, but have they directly confronted this president and made it clear that his actions, his normalization of naziism and white supremacy are wrong? i have not seen them do that. and so, at minimum, they should catch up to the manufacturing advisers. but we really need them to speak with a clear voice and make it clear that, you know, particularly in an evangelical community that sanctioned slavery and jim crow and so forth that this is a new day in american evangelicalism. lastly, joshua, you are a father. i don t know how old they are, but i have a my son will turn
charlottesville and indeed many vulnerable people around the country who have suffered assaults in the last 18 months with the rise of the trump campaign and subsequent presidency. this is part of a general pattern of minimizing and denying the power of white supremacy and how much it threatens vulnerable communities. professor, just last question. do you have any hope moving forward? my hope is that what i saw in charlottesville, which was a mass mobilization of many members of the community from students to clergy members to business owners, many different sectors of the community banded together. it was a great show of solidarity to reject this. i wish that the officials of the university of virginia and the town had been more attentive and that the police would have intervened in many of the assaults that took place. but what i saw from kind of rank and file civilians gave me a lot