of the conduct, including stuff that the jury didn t reach a verdict on, including stuff on which you re acquitted, can help fashion your final sentence. so what prosecutors need are a couple of counts of conviction. that makes him a convicted felon and all of his bad conduct can be taken into account. ken, you have some more information? go ahead. reporter: i apologize, this is being fed in real time. but it s my understanding now that the judge has said he will poll the jurors to determine whether they think they can possibly reach a consensus on any of the other ten counting on which they are deadlocked. and if they say they can t, he s ready to declare a mistrial on those ten counts. and the implication of that is we ll hear the verdict on the eight counts with which they have reached consensus. when would you expect that we would hear the verdict on the eight counts on which they have reached consensus, ken?
reporter: it sounds like momentarily, he s going to poll the jury, and if they decide they cannot proceed further, there s a chance he will send them back if there s any possibility that they can continue deliberating on the ten. but it sounds hi s like they ve deliberating for three hours, after having told the judge that they are deadlocked on some of the counts. they don t appear to reach consensus on them. but they have reached a verdict on eight counts. joyce vance, what are you hearing that on eight counts we could hear a verdict, and a mistrial on ten counting. is that a victory or partial victory for the special counsel? it depending as barb says on what the counts of conviction are. but here it would seem numerically if i remember the indictment correctly, if there are eight counts of conviction, there would have to be some bank or tax counts included, the
he heard that michael cohen s office had been searched, and he talked about how it was the end of democracy and he was so agitated about that. you know, i thought at the time it was significant that it meant that he knew that many secrets were about to be revealed. and i think today his worst fears have come true with a guilty plea by michael cohen. you combine that with the conviction of paul manafort, who still could cooperate, by the way, now that he s rolled the dice, maybe he sees the light and decides maybe i can cut a deal to dismiss my d.c. case, reduce my sentence exposure and begin to cooperate. so the walls are closing in on president trump. we have some breaking news from nbc s tom winter who joins us in lower manhattan. tom? reporter: so a little bit of a development here as the michael cohen plea hearing continues in court right now. it s still under way. michael cohen has pled guilty to
so this is remarkable. we have two different courtrooms. one in virginia, one in new york, with two people who, for at least a time, were in the innermost circle of trump world. one facing a verdict is about to come down, the other about to enter a guilty plea. it is a remarkable state that s where this president is, a year and a half into his term, where so much of his world and his presidency is being decided in court. ken delaney, you have more breaking news for us? reporter: i m being told that, yes, a verdict is coming, nicolle, because the judge has decided the jury is hopelessly deadlocked. so we ll hear soon the verdict on the eight counts. and joyce is right about the breakdown. there are manafort is charged with nine counts of bank fraud, five counts of failing to fail a correct tax return and four counts of a foreign bank count.
about paul manafort, knew about his reputation. you know, and so this wasn t this is not at all far-fetched. it was an open secret in washington. he had a dirty book of business. sman th explain that. that was an open secret. he represented a string of bad guys. he was that kind of lobbyist and influence peddler for bad people basically. that was well known. and you could it s not a leap to wonder about suspicious financial transactions. people kind of he was buying and selling a lot of real estate. we should be cautious since we don t know what the verdict is. we re getting some breaking news. i think we have is ken still with us? reporter: yes. nicolle, i can tell you that paul manafort has been found guilty of tax charges.