20 minutes before, martha, now. martha: 14 miners out, and 19, we are still waiting to be rescued and we re live that s drama continues to unfold, in chile, we ll be covering it as we get the 15th miner, victor segovia and we re about to talk to steve forbes, and change gears for a moment and talk about the extraordinary foreclosure situation going on and there is an investigation in 50 states, all 50 states, into whether or not many of these foreclosures should have happened at all, and what will happen as restitution for those that did, steve forbes joins us on that, right after this.
one such episode, the white supremacist march in charlottesville, the president s claim that there were good people on both sides, and his subsequent backdowns. cnn special correspondent jamie gangel has new reporting on that, joins us now with the breaking news. what have you learned? so we ve been so interested in the national security details and swiping documents off, but there are stunning details about charlottesville and how after that first speech the white house staff convinced him to go and make second speech. rob porter, who is the staff secretary, sits down with him, and woodward reports this very dramatic scene where they re in the white house residence and porter is urging him along, and trump is reluctant. he says things like i don t know about this, it doesn t feel right to me. but eventually, they get the speech done and then he does it. it sort of looks like a hostage video when you watch it. he goes back up to the residence. what does he do?