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most self-evident to use a phrase of benjamin franklin s, we were founded to use reason instead of blindly following the authority. we are now being asked to deny that capacity, not to see what is clearly there to be seen and discerned. and i think all of us are on trial here. i don t think that it is just president trump. i think that it is an american pin that has public that has to find a way to pay more attention not to who is saying something, but to what is being said and whether that is true. thank you very much, jon. stay with us. the problem with this president
today. other procedures probably won t take this long, but this is an alarm check for members making sure everybody is in the building. once they are in your office, expect the procedure votes to be a little bit quicker. and let me bring in jon meach meacham. i remember working on the hill and we had jefferson s manual up there and it seems like they are using every trick in the manual to get this to go past midnight if they can and make it as spooky as they like to describe these occasions. meeting in the basement, all partisanship. the old phrase dilatory tactics. and there is drama to what happens on the floor at moments like this.
defending it. on the other hand, you know, you have to be honest about what it means to lead a country. it means killing people. not on the scale that north koreans do, but a lot of countries commit atrocities including a number we re closely aallied with. there s a samantha power dorm room they re so mean and it s silly and stupid and not helpful. good morning. welcome back to morning joe. monday, july 1st. richard haass, former aide to the white house, elise jordan. david ignatius and white house reporter for the associated press, jonathan lemire. joining the conversation, historian, author of the soul of america and rogers professor of the presidency at the vanderbilt university, jon meach meacham. he s an msnbc and nbc news
there any actual progress on making a nation that could be an irrational actor, a destabilizing force and that could in fact project the deadliest kind of force known to man around the regime and perhaps even around the globe, what are we getting how are we controlling that when the president of the united states is, you know, if my teenager used social media this irresponsibly i would take her phone away. so what and richard has more insight into this than i do i m sure, but what is it that we are getting in return for really elevating this man again and again and again? well, the answer to jon s question which i don t know if it was aimed at me, so far we haven t gotten anything. north korea has used the talks to advance the nuclear weapons arsenal as well as it s ballistic missile arsenal, despite their cessation of