former attorney to have discussions with giuliani. you know, when they were under this joint defense agreement. but when cohen was testifying, he wasn t testifying about that period of time. he was testifying only about the period of time that followed that. now, whether doj picks this up remains to be seen. you know, representative the chairman of the house oversight committee where cohen testified publicly, elijah cummings, had said that he will hold cohen accountable to this and he will study the transcript of these other of his testimony and then of the house intelligence committee where cohen has testified and we learned today that that testimony, that transcript, may be made public within the month. so that is going to get a lot of scrutiny to see if cohen was able to clear this up when he was still under oath before a different congressional committee, erin. all right, kara, thaunk you very much. to me, you lie once, you go and get to clear it up so the first lie doesn t c
michael cohen fired back at the president on this international womens day. he wrote this. this is michael cohen s tweet. just another set of lies. let me we hind yremind you toda international womens day. right. these two men don t play a lot. they are back and forth on this. cohen was fighting back at the president that called him a liar. he called him a liar back. i don t know that publicly it will ever get resolved. we know about conversations which pardons were discussed between attorneys when there was a joint defense agreement. we fle aboknow about that. there is more that we don t know
i have never asked for nor would i accept a pardon from president trump. with all this confusion, what is happening here? have you heard rumblings of this before with all these reports? it is interesting the president has been quiet on this. he has kind of let this play out in the public where we have seen a change in the stories here where as you played that cohen said that he never asked for a pardon. lanny davis corrected this and said that michael cohen did direct his former lawyers to ask the president s legal team and discuss the possibility of a pardon. these conversations occurred while they had a joint defense agreement and a lot of those conversations were after michael cohen s apartment was raided. and then we have never heard cohen say that he directly
staying with me. let me ask you, senator, you re obviously a lawyer, district attorney attorney general, i m sorry. can i just play, again, what cohen said under oath to congress when he was asked about whether he asked the president for a pardon. here s what he said. i have never asked for, nor would i accept, a pardon from president trump. except for he did and he didn t in there say i never asked when we had a joint defense agreement, but then, i mean, i m sorry, i never asked after we had a joint defense agreement, but i did before. i mean, he said never. i m a regular person. that s a lie. you re a lawyer. and a regular person. and i think that statement is problematic in light of what his own lawyer is saying. a little perspective. it s the trump white house that is saying the department of justice may have to investigate. right. so the trump white house, obviously, has a dog in this fight. yes. and a possible attempt to discredit michael cohen. but keep in mind,
for his congressional testimonies, the stormy daniels lawsuit involving the defamation claim, the search of his home and office. he says he s owed damages that were incurred with that. his cooperation with the special counsel and the criminal cases against him. he says these fees incurred exceed $1.9 million and they continue to accrue. what s your reaction? michael cohen believes that he had a deal with the trump organization that they would pay for his legal fees, period, end of paragraph. this shows that he says that he spoke with eric and don junior about this when the fees weren t being paid and that he is due those fees. from the trump side, i think there s a feeling that they believe that they agree to pay michael cohen s fees when there was a joint defense agreement and there was an extensive document review as a result of that, but once michael cohen decided to cooperate with