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okay. let s talk about the pills. so you were able to function as a lawyer despite using pills. yes, sir. and you were able of course during this period of time to engage in these relatively complicated thefts that increase over the years that we have talked about, despite the pill usage, is that correct? i was. hmm? i was. all right. and you were able to convince the staff that nothing was amiss during this time that nothing was amiss during this time? while you were on the pill usage? my staff again, so we are on the same page, i acknowledge that i certainly allowed them to be misled. i certainly allowed them to do things that i shouldn t have done on my behalf knowing that they trusted me. how many pills were you using a day? it depends upon a number of items and most importantly, how strong the pill was. okay. let s talk about maybe start in january of 2021 and move forward. can you describe to the jury what the daily pill intake was like? i th

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